tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6193043695356712843.post2348357766255736050..comments2023-09-02T23:55:45.583+10:00Comments on Doctor Skeptic: Why placebo surgery is ethical, and necessaryDr Skeptichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09376469049519802493noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6193043695356712843.post-23326261173614520222012-08-01T21:19:19.518+10:002012-08-01T21:19:19.518+10:00Thanks Paul, I am also compiling reports on a sepa...Thanks Paul, I am also compiling reports on a separate page ("Placebo surgery") listing all previous studies of sham surgery - will be posting number 3 soon.Dr Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09376469049519802493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6193043695356712843.post-44033404899646095472012-08-01T08:23:57.358+10:002012-08-01T08:23:57.358+10:00Delighted to see this post! I’ve been arguing for ...Delighted to see this post! I’ve been arguing for placebo surgery for years. Will return later to read more carefully and probably ask a couple questions.Paul Ingrahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18421914685132660026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6193043695356712843.post-48964128307728911042012-07-21T14:36:10.413+10:002012-07-21T14:36:10.413+10:00Subjects are always able to withdraw at any time, ...Subjects are always able to withdraw at any time, but they are not permitted to go back in time. Your argument would negate any trial that involves an intervention at any time point, like taking a pill.<br />If you are making the point that there is irreversible risk involved with a stab wound, that is addressed in the post with respect to informed consent and balancing risks and benefits, and individual vs society etc.Dr Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09376469049519802493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6193043695356712843.post-11825588276407832142012-07-21T14:00:34.406+10:002012-07-21T14:00:34.406+10:00How do you deal with the Declaration of Helsinki (...How do you deal with the Declaration of Helsinki (section B, paragraph 24), that states that subjects are to be permitted to change treatment arms or withdraw from the study at any time. It's hard to withdraw once a permanent wound is made - sham or not.<br />JohnAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09662427606959046580noreply@blogger.com